Subsistit in (subsists in) is a Latin phrase which appears in Lumen gentium, the fundamental document on the church from the Second Vatican Council of the Catholic Church. Since the Council the reason for use of the term "subsists in" rather than simply “is” has been disputed. Generally, those who see little or no change in church teaching in Vatican II insist on the equivalence of subsistit in and “is”. Those who point to a new, ecumenical thrust in Vatican II insist that the term was introduced as a compromise after much discussion, and acknowledges new elements in the Council's teaching.
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| - Subsistit in (« subsiste dans ») est une expression de la constitution dogmatique Lumen gentium. (fr)
- Subsistit in é uma célebre expressão latina usada no 8º parágrafo da Lumen Gentium, que é um documento muito importante do Concílio Vaticano II (1962-1965) e que trata sobre a Igreja: Esta expressão latina e o seu significado são muito importantes porque afectam a própria definição de Igreja, a relação basilar entre a Igreja Católica e a Igreja de Cristo e a relação entre a Igreja Católica e as outras denominações cristãs. (pt)
- Subsistit in (subsists in) is a Latin phrase which appears in Lumen gentium, the fundamental document on the church from the Second Vatican Council of the Catholic Church. Since the Council the reason for use of the term "subsists in" rather than simply “is” has been disputed. Generally, those who see little or no change in church teaching in Vatican II insist on the equivalence of subsistit in and “is”. Those who point to a new, ecumenical thrust in Vatican II insist that the term was introduced as a compromise after much discussion, and acknowledges new elements in the Council's teaching. (en)
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| - If one considers the fact that the draft in which "est" had been changed to "subsistit in" was the first one that spoke of “Churches” and “ecclesiastical communities” that are found outside the Catholic Church, one can hardly escape the conclusion that the doctrinal commission did not agree with Tromp, who had forcefully insisted that "subsistit in" must be understood to be exclusivum, with the consequence that outside the Catholic Church there could be nothing but elements. (en)
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| - Subsistit in (« subsiste dans ») est une expression de la constitution dogmatique Lumen gentium. (fr)
- Subsistit in (subsists in) is a Latin phrase which appears in Lumen gentium, the fundamental document on the church from the Second Vatican Council of the Catholic Church. Since the Council the reason for use of the term "subsists in" rather than simply “is” has been disputed. Generally, those who see little or no change in church teaching in Vatican II insist on the equivalence of subsistit in and “is”. Those who point to a new, ecumenical thrust in Vatican II insist that the term was introduced as a compromise after much discussion, and acknowledges new elements in the Council's teaching. The context of the statement is: This Church constituted and organized in the world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, which is governed by the successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him, although many elements of sanctification and of truth are found outside of its visible structure. These elements, as gifts belonging to the Church of Christ, are forces impelling toward catholic unity. (Lumen Gentium, 8) This is a debate about externals, the institutional integrity of a church, the fullness of the means of salvation. "There is no question of denying that a non-Catholic community, perhaps lacking much in the order of means, can achieve a higher degree of communion in the life of Christ in faith, hope and love than many a Catholic community." The Catholic Church used both the "subsists in" and "is" formula in the Second Vatican Council, stating in the Decree on the Eastern Churches: "The Holy Catholic Church, which is the Mystical Body of Christ, is made up of the faithful who are organically united in the Holy Spirit by the same faith, the same sacraments and the same government." Thus the Council itself saw no essential difference between the terms "subsists in" and "is" regarding the identity of the Catholic Church as the one Church of Christ. (en)
- Subsistit in é uma célebre expressão latina usada no 8º parágrafo da Lumen Gentium, que é um documento muito importante do Concílio Vaticano II (1962-1965) e que trata sobre a Igreja: Esta expressão latina e o seu significado são muito importantes porque afectam a própria definição de Igreja, a relação basilar entre a Igreja Católica e a Igreja de Cristo e a relação entre a Igreja Católica e as outras denominações cristãs. (pt)
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